Military Begins Gay Porn Witchhunt in 82nd Airborne
Posted on | January 28, 2006
While it is referred to a "Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell", the actual name of the policy is "Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, Don’t Pursue". Basically it means The military won’t ask, you are not to will, and the military will not investigate you for homosexuality. But a now I am left wondering whatever happened to the "Don’t Pursue" part of the "Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell" policy towards homosexuals in the military?
I have been unable to find much information as to why the US Army began its investigation but my guess is that there was some sort of violation of the "Don’t Pursue" portion of the DADT. From the reports I have read the only real connection publicized about this site, which Pam Spaulding over at the House Blend has identified as ActiveDuty.Com (which was not working when I tried to check it this morning), is located in Fayetteville, NC which is the town closest to Fort Bragg which is the home of the 82nd Airborne.
There is often a joke that the "military" and "intelligence" are mutually exclusive concepts and in a case like this, I wonder how true it is. Back in 1997 we were given the case of Command Senior Chief Tim McVeigh, of no relation to Oklahoma City Bomber Timothy McVeigh, who had an AOL profile that did not directly identify him but had the word "gay" in it. This got back to US Navy officials who illegally obtained McVeigh’s account information from AOL and used that to begin proceedings against the naval officer with a seventeen year career of exemplary service to the US Navy. McVeigh challenged the US Navy and in 1998 reached a settlement with the Navy that allowed McVeigh to retire as a Master Chief Petty Officer and pay $90,000 in legal expenses to McVeigh. The Navy also dropped its appeal of a federal judge’s ruling that the Navy violated McVeigh’s privacy. The US Army better watch its ass on this one.
The reason shit like this annoys me is because it serves no purpose really. Especially now with the military operations in Afghanistan and Iraq. Not to mention the probable action against Iran as well. Does it really matter that they did porn? Does it affect their ability to be soldiers? But that all aside, one thing I am curious about was what if the site was heterosexual porn? Would they still pursue it or would it be swept under the rug? My guess it is would probably be swept under the rug given the military’s history of homophobia triumphing over common sense and necessity.
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External Links:
- Archives on USN Master Chief Tim McVeigh and the AOL Discharge Case
- MSNBC - Gay porn site may feature U.S. paratroopers
- Newsday - Army to Investigate Gay Porn Allegations
- Tim McVeigh’s Personal Site on His Discharge
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January 28th, 2006 @ 12:35 pm
I think the entire group should go do a gay porn as an act of civil disobeidence. What is the army to do, kick them all out. During a war? I doubt that, they would lift the ban so fast, it would hurt my eyes.
January 28th, 2006 @ 5:01 pm
Hey Joe, I would definitely subscribe to that site - lol
January 29th, 2006 @ 11:13 am
The site’s back up, so to speak.
January 30th, 2006 @ 11:16 am
So US military personnel, represented by a website as being Army, Navy, Marines or whatever ought to be allowed to participate in the production of porn? And you see nothing wrong with that?
Are you kidding? If you can see nothing wrong with that you’re just plain stupid. Or else you’re letting cock do your thinking for you again.
I sometimes wonder if “gay” and “intelligent” are oxymorons with guys like you protecting porn even when it’s portrayed as US military personnel –it’s one thing to have porn producers cater to your silly, puerile, juvenile lust for fantasy action figures –but this is just wrong. Hetero, gay, it doesn’t matter: it’s wrong. Bust their asses and let them become professional porn actors –as long as they’re in the military, there is a code of conduct they must follow and proscribe their actions. But they should be busted for making stupid choices that demean the military code of honor –and don’t even try to mistake or spin that as being anti-gay.
Why is that the GayLeft can’t get beyond their dicks? With guys like you around, we’ll never be able to convince society to allow equal civil rights. Grow up. Gheez.
January 30th, 2006 @ 11:25 am
To answer your question, I do not see anything wrong with it. If they are able to perform their assigned functions in the military and do porn, who gives a fuck?
I am not protecting porn. I am protecting people’s choices to engage in consentual behavior with other adults that really does not affect me.
You see, I am not like conservatives who feel the pain everytime a pergnancy gets aborted or feel my marriage crumble to pieces because two loving gay ment got married in Massachusetts.
You forgot to note thaty I questioned the investigation more because it was gay porn. Would that have persued it if it was heterosexual porn?
If you disagree with porn, do not watch it, do not buy it. Frankly, I do not care because I have other, more important things to worry about than micromanaging other people’s lives like Conservatives do.
Just because some people have puritanical sex issues does not mean the rest of us have to subscribe to them. Or are you a follow of Dr. Dobson and the bullshit he got spoon fed to him by Ted Bundy?
And please refrain from personal insults, they mean jack shit to me and just serve to make you look foolish. Attacking the messenger just proves you are unable to attack the message. Have a nice day.
January 30th, 2006 @ 12:17 pm
Anger Fag, “You forgot to note thaty I questioned the investigation more because it was gay porn. Would that have persued it if it was heterosexual porn?”
The problem is, when it’s straight soldiers/sailors it’s not nearly as publicized by the MSM.
There’ve been several porn rings onboard my husband’s ship and there’s been little said in the local papers. He’s told me about male superiors (E7 and above) take nude photos of junior enlisted females. There’ve been prostitution rings onboard. There’s some punishments doled out but from what I’ve been told, it seems like the women take the brunt of it.
This is only a big deal because the media is making it one. Sexual shit like this happens all the time and it’s swept under the rug if it’s between heteros.
January 30th, 2006 @ 12:19 pm
I guess that answers my question. Thank you for the information KP.
And please give your husband my thanks and respect for being in the military and the job he does.
January 30th, 2006 @ 2:07 pm
No problem, TAF! I’ll be thankful when his 20 years in up in July. I’m so damn tired of Navy life as is he.
January 30th, 2006 @ 3:00 pm
20 years?!? Wow. I have a friend who was in the USAF and was crawling out of his skin to get out and he only had a four year enlistment.
January 31st, 2006 @ 1:55 pm
# 5 AngryFag, right of course you “don’t care”; I woudn’t expect you to understand codes of honor or prescriptions on conduct for military personnel. Like a lot of gay guys, you live for your dick’s enjoyment. Period. Everything else needs to take a backseat for you. Thank God you aren’t in the military ’cause you don’t have a clue, dude.
While we’re on it, you also get off on playing the ol’ gay victim card, too –only what these poor hot gay guys are doing is violating military codes of conduct by engaging in porn.
Please, put away the victim card –this isn’t a convention of Democrat Party constituents seeking empathy.
The whole issue isn’t about what guys do off-base… or DADTDPDH… it’s about the nature of using their military status to entice slimey trolls in GreyFagLand with porn allegedly depicting military men. It’s using their position and the Army’s, Navy’s, Marines’ images for personal enrichment.
And it matters not a twit what happens to military guys who engage in hetero porn –they should busted also. The whole hetero angle is nothing more than trying to play out a gay victim card. It don’t hunt, dude.
Nawh, the issue is promoting or featuring a person’s military status while engaged in conduct unbecoming anyone –inlcuding, but not limited to, gay guys in the military. I know that porn is no big shakes to you, but do you comprehend about 89% of average Americans have never seen porn? For them it still describes a deviant behavior –one that’s passe for gay guys maybe… but then.
What bothers you isn’t that it’s a prosecutable offense or there’s a double standard in play here.
No, what really bothers you is that it appears the military are slamming one of our “own” gay brothers for having sex.
AngryFag, it’s not about sex; it’s porn. The guys can do what they want when their enlistment is over>> for now, they have a code of conduct that proscribes making porn.
Rules are easy to follow for most people. Why is that gay guys seem so frickin’ willing to abandon society’s or institutional rules when it involves a cock?
No wonder we can’t get anywhere on extending civil rights… it’s cause of mindsets of guys like you AngryFag. Draw in the victim card, stand down on your outrage about double standards and realize that the conduct of these military personnel is wrong.
Not those that enforce the rules.
And it isn’t about DADTDPDH either.
January 31st, 2006 @ 2:03 pm
Wow… You have some serious issues dude. Too bad you are not in the Ann Arbor area because I could give you the name of a good sex/relationship therapist to help you with those. Although it is not much of a commute to Ann Arbor from the Lansing area.
And yes, from what KP and her husband, people with direct experience, the *is* a double standard in play. Right now apparently there are now reports finally surfacing that women are dying of dehydration because getting to the proper facilities runs a serious risk of sexual assault.
And as for using the military image for personal enhancement, why was there not outcry when Jeff Gannon was exposed as James Guckert, Gay Military Prostitute. But then again he was just another conservative mouth piece so that makes it OK.
Get over you obsession with my cock too please.